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Survivor’s harrowing tale connects billionaire David Rockefeller and former Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau to global paedophile network.

In a chilling and unprecedented viral interview with Patrick Bet-David of the PBD Podcast, Anneke Lucas, a survivor of childhood trafficking, revealed harrowing details of her experiences within what she describes as a global network of elite paedophiles.

Lucas, who claims to have been trafficked by her mother into a Belgian paedophile ring at the age of six, shared stories that connect high-profile figures to her abuse, including former Belgian Prime Minister Paul Vanden Boeynants and the late billionaire and “Father of Big Pharma” David Rockefeller.

Lucas began her story with her childhood in Belgium, where she was allegedly sold by her mother to high-profile figures for sexual exploitation. She recounts being taken to various events, including one at a castle where she encountered severe abuse. Paul Vanden Boeynants, who later became Belgium’s Prime Minister, was implicated as a key figure in this network, using children for blackmail and to initiate new members into the fold.

The interview took a darker turn when Lucas spoke about her interactions with David Rockefeller, whom she met at the age of nine. Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her potential as part of an elite sex slave system aimed at controlling influential men through seduction and blackmail. She described being trained in mind control techniques by a German doctor, Hans Harmsen, linked to eugenics practices during Nazi Germany, to serve as a spy within this network.

Lucas’s revelations extend beyond political figures to include entertainers she met at gatherings organised by this secretive group. Although she refrained from naming living individuals due to legal and personal safety concerns, she hinted at the involvement of celebrities, suggesting a widespread operation that spans continents and includes both political and entertainment Hollywood elites.

The interview has sparked a significant public reaction, with many calling for further investigations into these allegations. While some of the accused are deceased, the implications for the survivors and the potential for ongoing activities by similar networks remain a grave concern. Lucas’s story adds to the growing discourse around child trafficking and the dark underbelly of elite societies, echoing recent high-profile cases like that of Jeffrey Epstein.

Bet-David addressed the urgency of addressing child trafficking, citing FBI statistics on missing children in the U.S, who number in the hundreds of thousands. He urged for more attention, resources, and legal frameworks to combat these issues. Lucas, on her part, has dedicated years to healing and now works with other survivors, aiming to shed light on these dark practices and promote healing and justice.

Her book, Quest for Love offers a detailed account of her experiences and healing journey. Bet-David encouraged viewers to support Lucas by purchasing her book, linking to it in his video description, hoping to bring more awareness and perhaps inspire change or further legal scrutiny into these networks.

Paul Vanden Boeynants

Anneke Lucas identified Paul Vanden Boeynants, the former Belgian Minister of National Defense and a two-time Prime Minister, as the head of the pedophile network in Belgium where she was initially trafficked. Lucas was introduced to Vanden Boeynants through her mother, who drove her to various “events” where she was abused. Vanden Boeynants allegedly used her and other children for blackmail purposes, leveraging their vulnerability to control or influence new members of the network. His position of power in Belgium’s political landscape provided him with the influence to orchestrate these gatherings, often held in secluded locations like castles, where Lucas experienced some of her most traumatic abuses.

Lucas described Vanden Boeynants as treating her with disdain, often as if she were nothing more than an object for exploitation. This treatment was part of a broader pattern where she was made to feel worthless, a tactic used to break the spirit of the children involved, ensuring their compliance and silence.

David Rockefeller

Lucas’s interactions with David Rockefeller were particularly detailed in her recounting. At the age of nine, she was brought to the U.S. where she was trained in various estates owned by Rockefeller, with the intention of turning her into what she described as an “elite sex slave.” This training involved not only sexual grooming but also lessons in elite etiquette, aiming to make her comfortable in high society environments to better facilitate her role as a spy and seductress among influential men.

Rockefeller, according to Lucas, saw her as a project, someone he could mold into a tool of influence. She spoke of an instance where she was taken to meet a member of the Rothschild family on an island off the U.S. northeast coast, suggesting a wider network involvement. Her training included mind control techniques in Germany, where she was subjected to harsh psychological manipulation to ensure her loyalty and effectiveness in her future roles.

Hans Harmsen

Hans Harmsen was mentioned in relation to the mind control training Lucas underwent in Heidelberg, Germany. Described as a doctor with a background in eugenics from Nazi Germany, Harmsen’s role was to ensure that victims like Lucas were not just physically but mentally conditioned for compliance. Lucas recounted how Harmsen used methods like forced observation of films to predict and control behaviours, employing extreme measures like strangulation to enforce learning through fear and near-death experiences. This training was part of a larger strategy to create programmable assets for the network’s use.

The Broader Network

While Lucas was cautious about naming living individuals, she alluded to encounters with other notable figures during events organised by this network. One such event was described near Lake Como in Italy, where she was exposed to a mix of politicians, celebrities, and aristocrats. Here, she was used in various ways, from performing to direct abuse.

The interactions she described with these figures often involved her being used to test or exploit their weaknesses, a method used to gather blackmail material or to ensure their continued cooperation within the network.

Pierre Trudeau

Lucas mentioned encountering Pierre Trudeau, the father of current Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, during one of the events she was trafficked to. She described this interaction as one of the most terrifying experiences of her life, stating, “I said that I could never please him as long as I was alive,” indicating the level of fear and trauma associated with that encounter. This interaction was part of her role where she was expected to report back on the weaknesses or preferences of the men she was forced to be with, information which could be used for blackmail or manipulation by the network leaders like David Rockefeller.

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CHINESE ELECTION THREAT WARNING: Conservative Candidate Joe Tay Paused Public Campaign

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Now, with six days until Canada’s pivotal vote—in an election likely to be decided across key Toronto battleground ridings—it appears that Tay’s ability to reach voters in person has also been downgraded.

Joseph Tay, the Conservative candidate identified by federal authorities as the target of aggressive Chinese election interference operations, paused in-person campaigning yesterday following advice from federal police, The Bureau has learned.

Two sources with awareness of the matter said the move came after the SITE Task Force—Canada’s election-threat monitor—confirmed that Tay is the subject of a highly coordinated transnational repression operation tied to the People’s Republic of China. The campaign seeks not only to discredit Tay, but to suppress the ability of Chinese Canadian voters to access his campaign messages online, via cyber operations conducted by Beijing’s internet authorities.

Now, with six days until Canada’s pivotal vote—in an election likely to be decided across key Toronto battleground ridings—it appears that Tay’s ability to reach voters in person has also been downgraded.

Tay, a journalist and pro-democracy advocate born in Hong Kong, is running for the Conservative Party in the Don Valley North riding. Federal intelligence sources have confirmed that his political activities have made him a top target for Beijing-linked online attacks and digital suppression efforts in the lead-up to next week’s federal election.

Tay’s need to suspend door-knocking yesterday in Don Valley North echoes concerns raised in a neighbouring riding during the 2021 federal campaign—where The Bureau previously uncovered allegations of Chinese government intimidation and targeting of voters and a Conservative incumbent. According to senior Conservative sources, Chinese agents attempted to intimidate voters and monitor the door-to-door campaign of then-incumbent MP Bob Saroya in Markham–Unionville.

Paul Chiang, a former police officer who unseated Saroya in 2021, stepped down as a candidate earlier this month after the RCMP confirmed it was reviewing remarks he made to Chinese-language media in January. During that event, Chiang reportedly said the election of Tay—a Canadian citizen wanted under Hong Kong’s National Security Law—to Parliament would cause “great controversy” for Canada. He then suggested, in a remark reported by a Chinese-language newspaper, that Tay could be turned over to the Toronto Chinese Consulate to claim the $180,000 bounty on his head. Chiang apologized after the comments were reported, claiming his remarks had been made in jest.

In a briefing yesterday, SITE disclosed that Tay has been the victim of similarly threatening online messaging.

One Facebook post circulated widely in Chinese-language forums declared: “Wanted for national security reasons, Joe Tay looks to run for a seat in the Canadian Parliament; a successful bid would be a disaster. Is Canada about to become a fugitive’s paradise?”

Tay, a former Hong Kong broadcaster whose independent reporting from Canada has drawn retaliation from Beijing, rejected Chiang’s apology in March, calling the remarks “the tradecraft of the Chinese Communist Party.” He added: “They are not just aimed at me; they are intended to send a chilling signal to the entire community to force compliance with Beijing’s political goals.” His concerns were echoed by NGOs and human rights organizations, which condemned Chiang’s comments as an endorsement of transnational repression.

In light of the RCMP’s reported advice to Tay this week, the challenges faced by Conservative candidates attempting to meet Chinese Canadian voters in Greater Toronto appear to reflect a broader and troubling pattern.

According to multiple senior figures from Erin O’Toole’s 2021 Conservative campaign—who spoke on condition of anonymity—O’Toole’s team was briefed by Canadian intelligence officials that Chinese government actors were surveilling then-incumbent MP Bob Saroya during the campaign. One source recalled, “There were Chinese officials following Bob Saroya around,” adding that “CSIS literally said repeatedly that this was ‘coordinated and alarming.’”

When asked to comment, O’Toole—who stepped down as leader following the Conservative’s 2021 loss—acknowledged awareness of voter intimidation reports but declined to confirm whether CSIS had briefed his team directly on the matter.

“Our candidate Bob Saroya was a hardworking MP who won against the Liberal wave in 2015,” O’Toole wrote in a statement. “He won in 2019 as well,  but thousands of votes from the Chinese Canadian community stayed home in 2021. We heard reports of intimidation of voters. We also know the Consul General from China took particular interest in the riding and made strange comments to Mr. Saroya ahead of the election. It was always in the top three of the eight or nine ridings that I believe were flipped due to foreign interference.”

SITE’s new findings on Tay’s campaign in Don Valley North reinforce those long-standing concerns. “This is not about a single post going viral,” SITE warned. “It is a series of deliberate and persistent activity across multiple platforms—a coordinated attempt to distort visibility, suppress legitimate discourse, and shape the information environment for Chinese-speaking voters in Canada.”

The Task Force said the most recent wave of coordinated online activity occurred in late March, when a Facebook post appeared denigrating Tay’s candidacy. “Posts like this one appeared en masse on March 24 and 25 and appear to be timed for the Conservative Party’s announcement that Tay would run in Don Valley North,” SITE stated in briefing materials.

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Ottawa Confirms China interfering with 2025 federal election: Beijing Seeks to Block Joe Tay’s Election

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The announcement marks the first time SITE has publicly confirmed that China is directly seeking to block the election of a particular candidate during the 2025 federal election—an election already shadowed by growing concern over Chinese interference through cyber operations and diaspora political networks.

One week before Canadians head to the polls, Ottawa has confirmed an escalation in China’s election interference efforts, identifying Conservative candidate Joseph Tay as the target of a widespread and highly coordinated ongoing transnational repression campaign tied to the People’s Republic of China.

The SITE Task Force—Canada’s agency monitoring information threats during the election—formally disclosed today that Tay, the Conservative Party candidate for Don Valley North, is the victim of inauthentic online amplification, digital suppression, and reputational targeting orchestrated by networks aligned with Beijing’s foreign influence operations.

The announcement marks the first time SITE has publicly confirmed that China is directly seeking to block the election of a particular candidate during the 2025 federal election—an election already shadowed by growing concern over Chinese interference through cyber operations and diaspora political networks.

“This is not about a single post going viral,” SITE warned. “It is a series of deliberate and persistent activity across multiple platforms—a coordinated attempt to distort visibility, suppress legitimate discourse, and shape the information environment for Chinese-speaking voters in Canada.”

SITE said the most recent coordinated activity occurred in late March, when a Facebook post appeared denigrating Tay’s candidacy. “Posts like this one appeared en masse on March 24 and 25 and appear to be timed for the Conservative Party’s announcement that Tay would run in Don Valley North,” SITE stated in briefing materials.

One post, circulated widely in Chinese-language spaces, featured an image that read: “Wanted for national security reasons, Joe Tay looks to run for a seat in the Canadian Parliament; a successful bid would be a disaster. Is Canada about to become a fugitive’s paradise?”

Significantly, according to The Bureau’s analysis, the post’s message resembles earlier remarks made by then-Liberal MP Paul Chiang to a small group of Chinese journalists in Toronto in January—comments made shortly after Tay’s inclusion on a Hong Kong bounty list was first publicized.

Chiang reportedly told the journalists that Tay’s election would raise significant concern due to the bounty he faced, before suggesting that Tay could be turned over to the Chinese consulate in Toronto.

Tay, a Hong Kong-born human rights advocate, was named in December 2024 by Hong Kong authorities as one of six overseas dissidents subject to an international arrest warrant and monetary bounty. His photograph appeared on a wanted list offering cash rewards for information leading to his capture—an unprecedented move that Canadian officials condemned as a threat to national sovereignty.

“The decision by Hong Kong to issue international bounties and cancel the passports of democracy activists and former Hong Kong lawmakers is deplorable,” SITE stated today. “This attempt by Hong Kong authorities to conduct transnational repression abroad—including by issuing threats, intimidation or coercion against Canadians or those in Canada—will not be tolerated.”

However, while facing an international wave of criticism, Prime Minister Mark Carney did tolerate his candidate’s alleged role in this activity. When asked earlier in the campaign whether he stood by Chiang, Carney said the Liberal MP retained his confidence. Chiang ultimately stepped down only after the RCMP confirmed it was reviewing the matter.

Chiang, who had been endorsed by Prime Minister Carney, was replaced as the Liberal candidate by Peter Yuen, the former Deputy Chief of the Toronto Police Service.

As The Bureau previously reported, Yuen traveled to Beijing in 2015 with a delegation of Ontario Chinese community leaders and politicians to attend a major military parade hosted by President Xi Jinping and the People’s Liberation Army—an event commemorating the Chinese Communist Party’s Second World War victory over Japan.

Yuen’s presence at that event—and his subsequent appearances at diaspora galas alongside leaders from the Confederation of Toronto Chinese Canadian Organizations (CTCCO), a group cited in national security reporting—has drawn media scrutiny.

Both Chiang and Yuen have stated that they strongly support Canada’s rule of law and deny any involvement in inappropriate activities.

According to SITE’s findings, Tay’s campaign has been the focus of two parallel strands of foreign influence since the beginning of the writ period. The first involves inauthentic and coordinated amplification of content related to Tay’s Hong Kong arrest warrant, including repeated efforts to cast doubt on his fitness for office. This activity has spanned multiple platforms commonly used by Chinese-speaking Canadians, including WeChat, Facebook, TikTok, RedNote, and Douyin.

The second strand is a deliberate suppression of Tay’s name in both simplified and traditional Chinese on platforms based in the People’s Republic of China. When users attempt to search for Tay, the platforms return only information related to the Hong Kong bounty—effectively erasing his campaign content and political biography from the digital public square.

While SITE noted that engagement levels with the disinformation remained limited, the timing, repetition, and cross-platform consistency led the Task Force to conclude this is a serious case of foreign interference.

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