By Matt Lamb
“I think a lot of people thought, you know, that the Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it’s not,” he said.
He said Kamala Harris will move even “further left” than Biden.
“I mean, her dad is literally… a Marxist economist”
A much publicized recorded conversation between Elon Musk and President Donald Trump has generated 1 billion views, according to the former.
Musk, who owns X (formerly Twitter), spoke with Trump for nearly two hours last night on the social media platform. The conversation was delayed by a “massive distributed denial of service attack,” Musk said. The hackers’ attack showed “there’s a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say.”
The European Union also sent a letter to Musk warning him that he had obligations to avoid posting “harmful content” that would “generate detrimental effects on civic discourse.”
Meanwhile, the Tesla CEO said Trump must win “for the good of the country.”
The pair talked about illegal immigration, the economy under Trump, the recent assassination attempt upon the former president, and crime.
Musk said he has “historically” been a “moderate Democrat” and explained why he is backing Trump in the 2024 presidential election.
“I feel like we’re really at a critical juncture for the country,” he said during the conversation. “I think a lot of people thought, you know, that the Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it’s not,” he said.
He said Kamala Harris will move even “further left” than Biden.
“I mean, her dad is literally… a Marxist economist,” Musk said. (Even left-wing Snopes has acknowledged Stanford University Professor Donald Harris is a Marxist.)
Musk also said that Harris is “far left” but there is a “propaganda” campaign to remake her into a moderate.
“And we’re seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala’s moderate when she in fact is not moderate,” Musk said.
Trump pointed out that Harris’s running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, is also a radical. As governor, he signed a law requiring boys’ bathrooms to provide female hygiene products.
“Well, her running mate approved, signed into legislation tampons in boys’ bathrooms, okay? Now that’s all I have to hear, tampons in boys’ bathrooms,” the former president said. “And that means she believes in that, too. I mean, she picked this guy because he was the closest to her.”
“If we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as the president, I don’t think our country can survive,” Trump warned.
Both talked about “common sense” views and the need to avoid the country turning into a nation-sized San Francisco or California.
“I think these are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities,” Musk said. “We want secure borders” and “sensible government spending,” as well as a fair judicial system.
Open borders are ‘existential issue,’ Musk says
Unchecked illegal immigration is a threat to the country and an “existential issue,” according to Musk.
“Whether it’s a question of intention or competence, either way, we don’t have a secure border and we have people streaming over like it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times,” Musk said, referencing Vice President Harris’ role as border czar.
Referencing a trip he took to the border, Musk said the people crossing “did not look friendly.”
“These are rough people,” Trump said in agreement.
“The caravans are coming in… and who’s doing this is the heads of the countries,” Trump said.
“The fact is it’s brilliant for them because they’re [sending] all their bad people, really bad people,” he warned and stated that among the illegal migrants were people who are lazy or won’t work.
He added: “And they’re also getting rid of their of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people.”
He also suggested that foreign countries are sending prisoners into the USA to save the money it would cost to keep them in jail.
Trump criticized Harris for suggesting that she is going to start securing the border, noting that she has not done so since taking office in 2021.
“I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States,” Musk said during the interview. “And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it’s gonna be even worse. With another four more years, it’s gonna be even worse than it’s been for the past three and a half years.”
“I’m not sure we’ve got a country,” the Tesla CEO warned.
The pair also discussed how relatively few of the migrants are from neighboring Mexico.
“It’s Earth, the rest of Earth,” Musk said.
Musk and Trump also discussed some of the more radical elements of the environmentalist agenda. Though Musk owns an electric car company, he also supports the use of oil and gas. Trump pointed out that most electricity still comes from oil and gas.
“Even to create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car, you know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants,” Trump said.
Musk was more pessimistic, saying the country may need to move away from oil and gas, but that even in 100 years the country would “probably be okay” in terms of fuel. He said there should not be “hardship” in moving away from oil and gas.
He suggested that both solar and nuclear power could provide more energy in the future.
The conversation between the CEO and the former POTUS also covered the “lawfare” against Trump, who has been targeted with questionable charges and novel legal theories, including in New York. There, a left-wing prosecutor named Alvin Bragg got the president convicted on questionable charges of campaign finance violations for alleged hush money payments he made to a porn actress. The decision has drawn criticism from legal experts.
“It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it’s never happened [here],” Trump said.
The former president also declared that Harris would harm the country if elected president, saying that she “destroyed” San Francisco and California while in power there. Harris served as the district attorney for San Francisco prior to running for attorney general.
Harris is “radical left,” Trump said.
“She is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco. And then as attorney general, she destroyed California,” Trump said.
“Our country is becoming a very dangerous place,” Trump warned shortly after those comments. “And she is a radical left, San Francisco liberal.”
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